» City buys sign

I'm not a resident, but I spent several summers working for my aunt at Wilson's Market in the 60's & 70's. I realize that time marches on, but it is painful to see what the town has become, especially the development along Beach Loop Road. Hopefully, that will slow down if not stop altogether.

Regarding the sign, I would suggest the following:
- some federal funds are "restricted" by law and can only be spent in certain areas (i.e. beautification); this restriction has encouraged wasteful, "spend it or lose it" spending by cities & schools
- anger is useful if it moves one to action; sarcasm makes it difficult to take one seriously
- by all means, meet with the City Manager, attend city council meetings and state your concerns for the record
- run for city council but run for your ideas and priorities, not against individuals
- honestly, people don't come to Bandon to see signs, they come to see the natural beauty of the ocean; signs detract from that.

I hope those of you who have such concerns are sincere about moving forward to make changes. Best of luck for Bandon's sake.

Bandon is the prettiest town in Coos County. Why wouldn't you want nice signage? I don't think Matt Winkel's letter was bad, just truthful. If the budget is over 22 million, $30,000 is a very small amount. Remember, it is a one time purchase, and if done right could be there for many years. If you really want to flip out over something, take the people to task who repainted the beautiful Coquille River lighthouse the god awful colors it is. And just because pubnlic funds weren't used doesn't make it right.

I've just discovered the comments to the articles. Once we strip the emotion from the comments the remainder leaves many valid issues.
Overall we have a good town. Can it be better? Yes, in many ways. Do we need some different council members? Yes. Who will run? I won't. For the last two years I've been asked to run for council or mayor. I'm no longer willing to tackle such an endeavor. It would be shoveling sand against the tide. I've withdrawn from volunteer positions with the city due to politics, inefficiency and sometimes lack of respect.
Let's also keep things in balance. Neither the council nor the city manager are angels or demons; they have done good things but I'm concerned the balance is shifting too much to the negative.
Regarding the many negative comments posted here about Mr. Winkel, I didn't write them as is it is reported I am a suspect. The mayor and manager should know me well enough that I am up-front and open.
If Mr. Winkel did write the entry here dated June 30, I find it rude, sarcastic and unprofessional. City council members, take note.

I have followed the discourse of this issue and honestly cannot place any trust in the virulent attributes leveled at your City Manager. I have known Matt both professionally and socially for thirty years, having had the great fortune to call him a colleague, associate, and friend. I admire Matt for his wisdom, guidance, sensibilities, civic virtue, maturity, and forbearance. I know Matt to be sincere, truthful, honorable, responsible, dependable, upright and trustworthy. Matt is a leader with demonstrable integrity, and he understands the issues that drive a community and applies that knowledge to enhance the value of its services. He is not afraid to challenge the status quo, explore new ideas, broaden the general knowledge base, break out of the box, or facilitate innovation. Matt radiates confidence and enthusiasm and inspires a sense of success in those working alongside him. He is decisive, not fearful of making reasoned recommendations on the basis of imperfect information. This is the Matt I know

Zzzzzzzzzzzz! Sign? What sign? Fired up? Over what? 9/11 never occurred either, right?

Now that you've read the book... Put it to use!

If we can't get rid of a rotten City Manager in a City of 3,500 people, we're hopeless on a National level.

Lets start with our own little world and fix Bandon. Write, email, call or visit personally the City Council. Let them know, if they continue supporting and protecting their little friend Winkel, they will no longer be needed for service. Concerned Bandonian has been making some valid points about our need to hire a new City Manager. Lets make that happen and then we can move on to bigger projects.

P.S. to Wayne and Janet I went to Costco while I was in CA an bought a copy of the book you mentioned "Common Sense."

The girl at the check out said they were selling them like mad.

I now see why.

I just got back from CA where they really have some major issues compared to the "sign." But that does not make our disgust one bit less, and I will stay on my soap box until we rid our government of men and women who care only for their reelection chances and making their pocket books fatter.

Hey, Concerned. Happy to see you remain awake and alert to the issue. Have you noticed that the citizens of our country are finally awakening to what our government(s) as a whole have been doing to us forever? Thomas Paine had the answer then as now, and it is time that our elected begin to recognize that we're on to them in a big way.

NOOOO. We will not forget or move on. We will ban together to make sure Matt Winkel gets a chance to move on to another town. We will get control of our City back and hire a City Manager who will put Public Service back in City Hall. We will have City office's that respect their position and provide quality customer service and good work ethics. It will happen, it must happen!

A solid majority of Bandon residents want to see the arrogance of Matt Winkel gone from our City. We simply need to stick together. We need to make certain people don't forget about the infamous sign and his no apology approach to justifying his expenditures. We must not forget that our City Manager has no problem saying he is doing a great job wasting $30,000 of our hard earned money.

Have enjoyed reading all this over the past few weeks and like the spirit of those who wrote in. It looks like it is over now and will be forgotten just like 9/11 seemingly never happened. What sign?

Let’s talk about waste! One minute the city is getting rid of police officers because they are short on funds, then they find funds for "The Sign", then they hire that kid as our new cop and the next thing you know they are letting him go! What the heck!? What gives with this city and their abrupt and radical decisions? I think something stinkith!

The LAST place you want to learn about politics is from a College Professor. They have been trying, for years to misteach the facts to students. The sad truth is, Beck is absolutely right on the money.

We're in for some trouble, so lets start by cleaning up our town. Who knows, maybe it will catch on in other places.

We need to change the way the City of Bandon operates and some of the poisonous people operating within the system.

My son is an out of state college junior and sent me a copy of the book. He said that after reading it his whole outlook of the political system changed from what his professors were telling his classes. His book was full of high lights and I read it. Mr. Beck is now my hero for telling us all in a very “common sense” way like it is, and what our politicians in power are doing to our country today, and as I write this.

This a little off base, or perhaps it is not. I just finished reading Glen Beck’s book, “Common Sense” and I highly recommend it to everyone regardless of party affiliation. It is totally non-partisan and simply delves into issues, such as those we are discussing here, and how we are being “hood-winked” by government and our so-called representatives. It is truly a wake up call to what has been occurring for decades, and is resplendent with “common sense.”

It's about time the people of Bandon woke up.

How much more money are we going to allow our local, state, and federal governments waste?

Now there is the group wanting a new pool to spend our hard earned dollars on.

Remember, vote these people out at the next election.

Since when do we need to "review and approve" posts?

Wayne - You misunderstood about the "sophisticated" people... I am not making a derogatory statement about those who actually have professional and educational experience in management, politics, budgeting, etc. What I AM saying is, "Those who think they are the proletariats in our community are the exact people Winkel and Mary Shamefulhorn are trying to impress." The rest of us understand the arrogance on each of their parts is completely unearned and their followers are just that - followers!

I am happy you are keeping a notebook of the blunders and unapolgetic attitude regarding their blunders. There is much more that needs to be done in order to solve this problem, but the dialogue has begun.

We will rid Bandon of Matt Winkel and restore respect for the City of Bandon. There used to be people working for the City who were beloved members of the community. Lets break up the club and get back to work!

Let’s not be too quick to slam the “sophisticated crowd.” Some are rightly deserving; however, my acquaintance with many who might fall into that category have put meaningful effort into improving this town, although their egos sometimes do get in the way, along with perhaps too many episodes of mutual back scratching. And, that does take the shine off the penny.
Along with the many people with whom I am acquainted ,we are maintaining accurate diaries, along with researching and documenting the actions of our mayor, the councilpersons, and the manager. That being said, we will use this info at election time to either make or break their unconscionable hold on the city’s purse strings, along with their unconscionable lack of judgment as so often witnessed in their actions.
Seems that in government, here and nationally, it is forgotten: “of the people, by the people, and for the people.” That will be resolved

Well, the issue is dying down and people are getting used to the ignorance of Bandon's City stooge!

Wait... I vowed not to give up and I won't. There have been good Bandon residents who've tried to oust Winkie before and gave up too soon. Eventually, even the idiots in our Council will see he's too controversial to stay in his position. If they think the "sophisticated" crowd will applaud them, they'll damn near do anything. After all, City Council members are typically low self esteem folks who are desperately seeking public approval. Sure, there are the exceptions, such as the local realtor who's trying to bolster his buisiness or the insurance agent seeking the City's insurance policies. By in large, however, the former is a majority.

So, lets be vigilent in our efforts and creative in our approach.

Unreal! I am shocked to read what has happened. Maybe I should run for Mayor or city council? I could hardly do any worse! It would be an interesting adventure to at least! Someone to make decisions based on respect for the tax payers and doing what is good for our towns safety...

But the mayor has a nice "boy friend." I used that term at 16, not at 60 something.

Yes Wayne, we are being force fed the exact same bag of tricks. Notice the arrogance of our City, the self righteous attitudes, the unapologetic spitting in our faces. We are being told both Nationally and locally, "We, the Government, are forced to keep you all from making decisions. Because of your ignorance, you need our supreme intelligence."

The sad part is our City Leadership is the lowest in the food chain. If you can't manage a City of 5,000, there isn't really anywhere else to go.

With a Mayor who has no experience leading anything, most our City Council believing they are "great political forces" and our City Manager sucking up to the whole group, we're left out in the cold. Think about it subjectively and you'll come to the same conclusion. The real "locals" have lost control. If I hired someone from out of town to come in a propose a development, he would have much more success at getting it through the system than a local person. They are mostly little people wanting to believe they have big power. It's disgusting!!!

Just another thought: Considering my last post, can't we extrapolate this sign issue into the national debacle we are all experiencing?
Aren't we getting conned in both areas?
Or, is this too much for the mindset of our little "touchy and feely" town?

Wayne,

I totally agree. but it's hard not to get tunnel vision. The problem with taking our frustrations out at "election time" is that nobody worth a damn would ever want to be on the City Council or be a Mayor of a town our size.

I just want Winkel gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, this one is finally dying out, but still see a lot of threads aimed at "Winkie." Don't get tunnel vision, folks. There is the Mayor and Council who are also involved in this debacle, and when election time comes up, don't forget who did what, and don't give them a pass because of decades of residency in our little town.

I stumbled across this article and it seems to have a lot of people upset. So I went and looked at the sign and I must admit I am not quite sure how it cost so much. I know you must have paid a local artist to design the paiting and I don't want to hurt their feelings, but it sure isn't very good. Truthfully, the lighthouse isn't even the right color. The real lighthouse has a completely different color scheme.

Just my opinions. Good luck to Bandon and I am sure you will come together and solve your issues. From my experience, when there is a divisive personality working in City government, that person needs to be removed before the healing can begin. I would guess, Mr Winkel should either resign, take some classes on diplomacy, or be removed.

Preliminary Numbers are in and July 4th tourism is up nearly 40%. When polled, nearly 7/10 admitted they were here to see the incredible sign.

Motels are sold out, for weeks. The shops can't keep "Welcome to Bandon" sign postcards on the shelf. The restaurants can't keep the ingredients for the "super sign" donuts in stock.

I tried to thank Winkel and Mayor Mary, when they went by in the parade... It was all to no avail!

I had to come to a sudden stop, almost without warning, as I crested the hill south of the Welcome to Bandon sign. Cars, motorcycles, and Recreational Vehicles were lined up in masses. Everyone, just trying to get a glimpse of the amazing Vegas-style sign that alerts each motorist to their location. $30,000 for such a magnificent display of craftsmanship seems like such a bargain.

This is perfect proof that Bandon is all about the image. We don't want to spend money on helping unemployed or struggling residents with their power bill. We don't want 24 hour police protection. We definitely don't want to put more money in our rundown little league fields. WE WANT UNINSPIRING SIGNS! WE WANT SIGNS THAT LACK ARTISTIC REPRESENTATION. WE WANT MATT WINKEL FOR LIFE.

Bid awarded to: Bob Butler

Bid Amount: $30,053.

City Office Worker: Sandy Butler (wife of contractor)

Beautification Account Balance: $30,000

Wow, what an amazing coincideence.

Does this not trouble anyone else?

We're wasting our time having meetings until Matt Winkel is no longer the City Manager. The smug letter he wrote about this issue, proved to me how SECURE he is with his position. There is no way a person who truly cared about the throughts of the residents (his employers) would have written a letter with such a tone.

I hate having this sound like a witch hunt for Matt Winkel. It makes me sound like I have some "agenda" for wanting him gone. I have a simple agenda - I want to see the City of Bandon adopt an attitude of "Service" to the residents. I want the people in charge of spending our tax money to take credit when they make a bad decision. Bandon has been going down the wrong path for several years, and it's time to get back on track. Humility and an attitude of service should be important attributes for our City Employee's.

I have no personal issue with Mr. Winkel. In fact, I don't know the man. I just know he throws little temper tantrums when he's questioned by his employers. I know he believes he is an "untouchable" because of his friendships on the Council and with the Mayor. I know he doesn't hire very well and is even worse at managing a staff. We have some great public servants working for the City of Bandon, in spite of the leadership. We also have an unacceptably high percentage of
works with horrid people skills, meager work ethics
, and self righteous attitudes. Some of them are good enough people who have been poorly managed and have developed very bad habits.

A great example of a public servant is Chief Bob Webb. He shouldn't be the exception, but the rule.

In short, Bandon needs to clean house... Starting with Matt Winkel. Trust me, you'll be amazed at how much better the City performs if we hire a quality City Manager. We all work very hard to earn the money that pays the wages of the very people who treat us like we don't matter. We deserve better!

All of these comments express what I am sure is also the opinion of those in town who don't comment. With the exception of Mr. Winkle's that is.

With this many comments, perhaps this is something that should be review at a City Council meeting. Open to the public.

I'd love to attend that meeting.

Great, Bandon spends $30k to become a Statewide joke. The Lars Larson program just talked about what someone call the Taj Mah Sign.

Great work City of Bandon.

I am sincerely hoping, for the health of Bandon, the person writing message below was NOT the real Matt Winkel. I find it highly improbable that a City Employee would say publically, "...only thing some folks identified as being wasteful was $30 thousand for the sign, since this represents only about thirteen one-hundredths of one percent of the total budget."

I have been involved in and around State Goverment long enough to know that, in almost every situation, a person making such a comment would find himself looking for a new line of work. To say that it's insulting to the residents for a City Manager to be so cavalier about wasting money, no matter what the amount, is an understatement. It is also a very week way to defend the decision to build the sign at such an expense. We are talking about a single event that is obviously extremely wasteful... I believe, speaking for myself, the tone behind most of the comments has been, "If the City, under the direction of Matt Winkel, will was $30,000 on a sign, there must be a real pattern of waste in our City Government."

Since the City finds small percentages to be meaningless, how about we all deduct "thirteen one-hundredths of one percent" of our utilities bill and send that amount. I guarantee, if that were the case, the City would be working overtime to pull meters.

How dare you insult the people of Bandon, many of which WORK ALL YEAR to earn $30,000. How dare you act so flippant about our concerns. How dare you ignore the questions about a City Employee's HUSBAND being awarded a contract that was bid at almost the exact amount the City could spend for beautification. How dare you pat yourself on the back for wasting ANY money.

We have a City with a high rate of unemployment and way too many people unable to make ends meet. Nearly 50% of the children in this town are eligible for the free lunch program at the school and our City Manager gets annoyed by residents making comments about HIS wasteful spending. This is disgusting!

I can't speak for everyone, but I believe most residents would have rather spent $30,000 on a private consultant to identify how poorly the City performs in A) Attitude B) Efficiency C) Prioritizing D) Customer Service... You get the point!

Bandon is a very small town and we likely won't attract the truly successful City Manager's applying for the position. I do believe, because Bandon is a great town with great people, we can do much better. There are likely many successful City Manager's who would like to work in Bandon as they transition into retirement. What a perfect situation for the residents - we get a seasoned City Manager with brains and integrity to work a couple years and retire here. Then, we do it all over again!

How dare you act so flippant about wasting OUR MONEY, Mr. Winkel.

How dare you gloss over the nepitism issues that run rampant under your supervision.

How dare you fail to answer the question of how the bid for the sign came so close to the budgeted amount.

How dare you call yourself a City Manager.

How dare keep promoting the "US vs THEM" mentality at the City.

How dare you...

This is to express my sincere appreciation for those of you who have written about the new Welcome To Bandon sign. It is very helpful to know how people feel about government spending, particularly in helping keep an eye out for wasteful spending and corruption. It is reassuring to learn that of the City’s total fiscal year 2008-2009 budget of $22.3 million, the only thing some folks identified as being wasteful was $30 thousand for the sign, since this represents only about thirteen one-hundredths of one percent of the total budget. Although keeping government waste down to that low of a level is quite an accomplishment, I think we may be able to do even better. I would therefore very much appreciate hearing directly from any of those who have written on this matter, so we could set up an appointment to meet and review the upcoming fiscal year’s $19.8 million budget. Although the budget has already been reduced by about $2.5 million below last year, perhaps you could identify additional savings and measures you would like implemented to better and more effectively meet the needs and wishes of the citizens of Bandon. My telephone number is 541-347-2437, and my e-mail address is citymanager@ci.bandon.or.us. Thanks again for your help, and have a great day!

Matt Winkel
City Manager

Where have I been during all of this? I thought that restaurant was putting up the unsightly mess of a sign.

Come to find out it is the city of bandon? They are as crooked as my dogs back leg.

i totally agree with gordon. this issue should be getting a lot more attention from the city. my guess is they are ignoring it until everyone just moves on. oh and i noticed they spent a bunch of money on the old town signs to. what the heck is going on in bandon.

since those office workers for the city obviously don't do a lot of work, i bet they read these posts all the time and just laugh at how powerless we all are. it's disgusting. we moved from a big city to get away from this stuff.

Is that correct? The Contractor who is building the Taj Mah Sign is married to a City Employee? If that is true, there must be more questions asked of the City Officials. Since the bid came in almost exactly the same as the amount that was in the account, there is obviously a problem when nepitism gets involved.

I'm shocked at how little attention this matter is receiving. There should be a special meeting of the city Council to get all this ironed out.

The contractor is married to a City Employee... The Bid was within a few dollars... DO PEOPLE NOT CARE???

If people banned together and made a statement, by not hiring the contractor who was "awarded" the contract, continuing to pressure the city council to remove Matt Winkel, and get some Statewide attention to how wasteful the City of Bandon can be during these hard economic times.

Trust me, public embarrassment is the best way to get as these people!!!

Obviously from the comments here and in public, the sign is unpopular, and suspect of corruption being the job is given to a husband of a city employee. How many bids were there? I would think that will a little shopping, a formidable and pleasing sign could be made for two to four thousand dollars. This bad publicity will bring nothing but negative results for those concerned. Considering the situation, a repair on what has happened, would be a wise and prudent act.

Amazing... The City is irritated with the citizen's making comments about their wasteful behavior. You can tell, because they are now spending a bunch of money and man hours on the overhead arches leading into old town.

There is nothign worse than the arrogance of our City. I've witnessed it on many occasions, but it just keeps getting more blatant!

When Scott made reference to there only being one bid for the new sign and it came from the husband of a city employee, it made me realize that something fishy MIGHT be going on. But then, to think that his bid was within $100 dollars of the budgeted amount - that stinks of a setup. DOES NOONE CARE?

Matt is for sure a target, but let's not forget that the mayor and council are contributory to the issue. They, too, must be held accountable. When is the next election?

I am amazed at the outrage shown by residents over the new sign. Don't you want visitors to feel encouraged to stay here and spend money. Without that new sign, potential tourists will just keep going up the coast, until they find a welcoming town with a $30,000 sign.

Matt Winkel and the council members who voted for this expenditure are brilliant. Tourists don't want beautiful parks or properly mowed and cared for public areas. These discriminating folks are not a bit interested in how safe a town seems to be. They are completely consumed by signage! Everyone knows that's the business model for struggling towns.

Oh, and I applaud the City for breaking ALL their rules for signs. If a local business would have wanted to put up a sign that size, they would have been required to have a massive building situated along Hwy 101 with thousands of feet of frontage property. There would have been a study to determine whether or not the sign had any negitive effects on visability from cars. The City Compliance Officer (aka - rude little power hungry menace) would have shut the project down at least twice, to argue about permits and permission.

I feel so lucky to have such hypocrites, I mean wise community leaders, looking out for our nice little town. Without Matt Winkel, the current Council, and the City Employee's who ban together to work against the residents, we'd be happy here in Bandon. Too much happiness would be horrible. New business would be encouraged to move here, unemployment would go down, tax revenue's would go up, and we'd have to put up a sign warning people of the great lifestyle Bandon affords. Whew, thank you for making sure we don't have to suffer through all of that happiness and common sense.

As it stands, we can sleep soundly knowing our tax money will be wasted, our excellent police department will be widdled to nothing, our schools will continue to cut positions, the hospital will pretend they are making money, and Matt Winkel will continue protecting the employee's from the residents. After all, that's the recipe for municipal success!

Hate to be rude; however, echoing Scott "How about having one or two less grumpy hags in the office?" To those ladies who know this doesn't apply to them, it doesn't.

Wow, I had no idea the way a community makes visitor's feel welcome is by erecting an ostentatious sign. Silly me, when I'm travelling, I always have always judged the "feel" of a town by how "SAFE" I've felt. The presence of patrol officer's out protecting us seemed important. My Husband and I are so thankful to know that the best welcoming gesture has become the sign.

Bandon should be proud to be known as the City who puts welcome signs and tourists above the safety, education and well-being of it's residents!

May I make a suggestion for your sign? How about, "Welcome to Bandon... Please leave your common sense behind, we surely have."

Ok... I can't help but make a few additional comments.

Matt Winkel has a effectively surrounded himself with staff who are so rude and slothful, he is actually seems like a well kept communicator. I'm no longer falling for it! Our City has forgotten they are PUBLIC SERVANTS and there needs to be a housecleaning. Starting, of course, with Matt Winkel.

Seriously, we have a GREAT Police Department and that's where the cuts are implemented. How about the City contracting out for Power? How about we have less stooges driving around in white pickups? How about having one or two less grumpy hags in the office? Shall I continue???

I find it suspect, to say the least, when the only bid received was from the husband of a city worker and was within $53.00 of what was in the account. Isn't that just amazing? The Contractor, without any inside knowledge, was within .005% of the budget amount.

The City of Bandon, is nothing if not consistent. They have mastered 3 unfortunate habits... 1) They are adept at pitting themselves against the residents; 2) They consistently find new and creative ways to waste taxpayer money; 3) nepitism runs rampant!

I should stop here, before I create a dissertation on the faults of the City of Bandon... Unfortunately, that would end up being far too voluminous.

Now I'm beginning to understand the price - it's obvious they're working by the hour.

Shame on the City Council for okaying such an expenditure. Couldn't the money have been transferred to another fund, and spent wisely. congress has done it repeatedly. I am curious as to who got the bid and job for it.

Lisawrote on May 29, 2009 9:22 AM:

"Tear down half the hillbilly like structures on the highway, then maybe this place would look more inviting."

Amen!

$3,000 for materials and $27,000 for labor. Huh?
Mary Woods if right, perhaps we do need to look seriously at who we have elected to run our town.
Remember the old brown and yellow sign as you entered Bandon on Beach Loop? Did the job.

I'm appalled at the waste of money for this sign. Same result for a fraction of the cost via volunteerism from local service clubs, retirees, home improvement stores, etc. etc. etc.
The mind set of our elected and appointed officials is a discrace at best. Do we need "change?"

It's sad when a touwn values 'discretionary spending' more than law enforcement! The budget needs to be changed and money moved to appropriate 'needed' areas!

How can the city justify spending $30,000 when times are so bad right now. Spend it on health care or something useful.

No wonder our economy is out of whack!!

It would help to keep Bandon beautified, and a lot more, by hiring another police officer for $40,000, than to spend $30,000 on a not needed sign. Bandon speaks for itself.

don't paint over art work on our stores. ??? some of the $$ on touch up's etc. many of us take pix of them an send to family an friends out of state. we are unic an diff an proud of it. make a feeding station for the bleep gulls maybe the tourists an ? would feed them there rather then be too near an splant my car big time at the jetty !!!!

$30,000 for a sign? what a joke.

Double the price of the sign and you almost have the annual budget for the Parks we were asked to pay for.

How does that thing cost 30 grand? Looks like about $1000 in material to me. what a scam.

$30,000 FOR A SIGN, AND THEY WON'T HIRE A NEEDED POLICE OFFICER FOR $40,000 TO PROTECT OUR SAFETY. WHO CAN POSSIBLY MAKE SUCH AN OXYMORONIC DECISION?

What an outrage!! Ever try to make a left onto 101 from Seabird in August? Takes forever. Where is our traffic light?? How dare these ignorant rubes use that kind of money on something so stupid. The city begs us for money for upkeep on the parks and THIS is what they do with $30,000!?! You want to make Bandon look better?? Tear down half the hillbilly like structures on the highway, then maybe this place would look more inviting.

Bandon buys and has more signs than anywhere I've ever seen, been in or lived in.

I can't see the ocean for the signs.

Is this a sign of the times? If so, here's your sign!

Signing off, Al